According to Trump, Ukraine started the war. Why?
08.06.2025 00:35
“We the US government and European NATO countries orchestrated a COUP in Ukraine to put our NATO bases one day there and threaten Russia”.
Baker told Gorbachev that;
And “if we keep a presence in Germany, NATO’s jurisdiction will not move an inch to the East”.
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We want to avoid the emergence of a New Pan-African Gold Backed Currency, because it weakens our economic control over African Countries and Disrupts our own Economies and interests in the African Region. So we are going to wage a destructive war to coup and Kill Gaddaffi before he creates his very disruptive to our economies new Pan African Gold Backed Currency.
and it looks like “Russian Propaganda” is very much extended
Memorandum of conversation between Mikhail Gorbachev (President of the Soviet Union) and James Baker (Secretary of State of the United States) in Moscow.
This are all violations of the agreements and compromises that NATO had with Soviet Union and Russia (Soviet Union’s successor in terms of responsabilities, guarantees, priviledges and continuation of international security threaties and position in the UNSC)
1991 - 2000: Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary, Greece, Turkey.
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We have nothing to do with Politics,
ALL IS FALSE!!!
Of course he knows what he is talking cause he either deals with type of information directly or works very close to it and to people who also work with such type of information
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See that:
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The US have already played that game before mmany times, and it is well known for it.
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We can take a look at other actions that put in context Western Intentions of aggression towards Russia.
2001 - 2002: Bulgaria, Romania, Solvakia, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia. (Latvia and Estonia already have borders with Russia).
You, now, reading my answer, will be getting into the REAL INFORMATION (not fake propaganda media like DW, BBC, CNN, etc…)
But what NATO did?
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10 years acting from behind, forming alliances, buying, bribing, or bolstering Media Outlets and NGOs trying to shift Ukraine’s popullation’s mindset, waging an ideologycal war that would eventually and ultimately lead Ukrainians to unknowingly act against their own best interests, their own self interest and their own security.
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What they tell you on TV and to the masses in general:
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We know WHO WAS BEHIND THE COUP!!!
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They do not really care about Ukraine or Ukrainians, all they care about is their idea of “Western Hegemony”.
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The point of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) is that no country would attack each other with ICBMs (capable’s of sending nuclear war heads between continents) because throwig nukes against one, would mean both throwing nukes at each other, which would mean mutually asured destruction, creating a Nuclear Power Ballance, that ensure that no one would use nukes against each other because the possibility of retaliation worked as a DETERRENT for nuclear warfare. But the US wanted to have the unique advantage of having a shield, so they could shoot nukes at others without getting retaliated, so they got out of the Treaty because they wanted to develop such a system that could break the balance of power (which could potentially meant they could have the advantage). Obviously, breaking the ballance of power, trying to make Russia’s ICBM warheads useless against the US, while keeping US warheads functional against Russia is a way threaten them, the lack of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) meant that the US could unilaterally attack Russia in the future without consequences.
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In general they are talking about the reunification process of Germany. As we know Germay got divided into two parts after WW II , then they were in the reunification process.
And remember that according to the former Spain’s Ambassador in Georgia, this COUP was been orchestrated for about 10 years. It took 10 years in the making.
Let me explain.
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“we seek no unilateral advantage in this process”.
And you know, right now, there are many different nations, right now,
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This is a FACT.
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What you and I are disccussing here, so openly
Now, what you see above about Libya was just a Real Live example of how this works.
Well that’s easy.
Reality:
But first, dear reader.
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in the diplomatic community.
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The United States unilaterally pulled itself out of the Anti-Ballistic Missile Systems Treaty.
2023 - 2024: Sweeden and Finland (Finland have a huge border with Russia).
Certain EU politicians might have wanted to break Russia into weaker, smaller, divided states. But at the end it was just their wet dream.
Another thing is that the West DID PROMISE that NATO would not expand to the EAST.
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Here’s the full video, it’s very long, I don’t think you need to watch it entirely. I’m just putting the first comments from the ex-Ambassador Zorrilla to get my point there within the first minute, and leaving the video here to proof it’s not a lie, and that people don’t come here claimming that my claims here are “propaganda” or something.
Now they wanted Ukraine to join.
It’s not a Bad Thing, IF the Big Power is actually much SMALLER.
Why are EU / NATO countries so adamant about not accepting losing Ukraine’s war. Because, at least for them in EU, it would be the end of Western Hegemony.
There’s the FAKE WORLD, which comes from what politicians tell to the public, and there’s the REAL WORLD, which is that which is kept secret from the pubic and that high rank political and functionaries and Intelligence Community works in.
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Because if Ukraine Falls, it will be a CATASTROPHE for the West.
Why???
There’s also the fact that very important gas pipes go from Russia and pass through Ukraine into Europe. Which makes it of VITAL ECONOMIC INTEREST to Russia.
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The agreed that it was better to keep Germany inside of NATO, cause among other things, a neutral, non-aligned Germany would eventually feel the need to create it’s own Nuclear Weapons for it’s own security.
So it’s not hard to see US’s animosity and bad intentions toward Russia with this actions.
We all know that they were preparing a COUP
part of Russia.
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So, if anything, I guess you could say that Ukraine’s fault was been of it being naive and to allow itself to get deceived and used by the West. Ukraine wanted to be part of the West, but they didn’t notice that they were just a puppet of the West, meant to be used by the West, a dispossable - expendable puppet, and now, just like anyone would do with a dispossable used piece of Toilet Paper, they are throwing it into the garbage can or the toilet and flushing it down.
The West Couped Ukraine.
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Like John Mearsheimer.
So it’s clear:
The Secretary of State of the United States of America (James Baker) did promised to the President of the Soviet Union (Mikjael Gorbachev) that NATO would not move an inch to the East.
It was Ukraine, but it was not Ukraine.
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It means, having a lot of bases with missiles that could reach russian cities.
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We are at the Service of Politics.
It means, having a lot of bases with soldiers of hostile military alliance that could invade their territory from multiple fronts at the same time.
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Now, what does it means for Russia to be surrounded by NATO bases ???
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Now on to Ukraine….
As, you can see, this is documented.
We know what Yanukovych wanted to do
It will be the END OF WESTERN HEGEMONY
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Those pipelines that cross Ukraine are the most profitable ones for Russia. They are of Vital Economic Importance.
The AMERICANS were preparing a COUP for about 10 YEARS!!!
Because Anti-Ballistic Missile Systems, that help protect against Inter-Continental Ballistic Missiles may work as shield, that avoids Mutually Assured Destruction.
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As well, I think, if you would have like… Small Nations.
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This has gone as far, that it is known nowadays, that about 9 out of every 10 Media Outlets in Ukraine had been receiving money from USAID.
But well, some people were already aware of this and saw it comming years before it happened.
AND AMONG US FREE FROM CONSTRAINTS,
Russia’s defeat is not a bad thing,
So by keeping Germany inside of NATO, Germany would depend on USA’s Nuclear Weapons for it’s safety rather than devolpe more nukes by itself, so it helped avoid Nuclear Weapons proliferation.
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We know WHO RECEIVED THE MONEY!!!
We all know very well what happened in Instambul (note, he most likely meant Ukraine, named the wrong location)
As to why Trump blamed Ukraine.
It’s because, it’s harder to tell the complete truth and say:
BECAUSE, WE ARE PROFESSSIONALS!!!
Also, by blamming Ukraine, he can also do that to try to get an upper hand in trying to get a deal with poor war thorned Ukraine for controlling strategic interest areas like ports or access to mineral resources, as Trump is desperate due to US debt, and also, rare Earth metals for microships, graphic cards and the Artificial Intelligence tech race with China. Trump also wants to get “sweet” and “cozy” with Russia, because he believes that he can separate it from China, which he sees as the greatest future economical, technologycal and political competitor, and the greatest challenger to United States’ Hegemony, as he knows that without Russia’s help, it is simply impossible for the US to defeat China’s growing economy which will most certainly and almost unavoidably surpass the US within a few decades, putting a definitive end to US’s Hegemony, so it’s all part of their China Containment Policy.
Now, that we are certain that Western Countries, including the US (and certainly US’s European Allies) couped Ukraine.
( Gotten from Hillary Clinton’s emails )
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But this nothing but a very dangerous attempt from Western Politicians to play “ The Game Of Risk“ in real live
It is FACTUAL.
As Kissinger said:
The West couldn’t take it, they felt economically threatened by this, so they funded and gave weapons to Rebel Paramilitary Terrorist like Forcest, and Gaddaffi tried to take them out, the West build up a Fake Case of “Gaddaffi is suppressing it’s own people, we need to interviene to save Libyians, because we are the good guys, so we will bring democracy to Libyans”. Now that the country is in ruins and their open air slave markets, nobody cares about Human Rights in Libya any more, Libya just desappeared out of Western Media (who would have guessed!!!).
There’s even the testimony of a European NATO country Ambassador.
This isn’t some “Russian Propaganda”.
You need to understand, that if you really want to properly understand this issues, you need to get yourself out of the disinformation and propaganda bubble that politicians and media try to keep you trapped in.
But it’s not a game that you could play in real live, with real live countries, without eventually triggering WW III and a potential Nuclear Doomsday
We fight for Libyans, against Gaddaffi’s oppression of Libyans, we fight for human Rights. So we are going wage a war to coup and kill Gaddaffi to help Libyans.
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Here’s an UNCLASSIFIED DOCUMENT ( You can find it in the NSA Archive which is open to the public online) :
The European Comission Vice-President, Kaja Kallas, in the Lennart Meri Conference talked about “BREAKING RUSSIA INTO SMALLER STATES”.
This is NOT A LIE
So, we have it very clear.
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Let’s look at what one of the people who handles REAL INFORMATION have to say:
Here we can see notes more or less about the conversation between Gorbachev and James Baker,
The Ex-Ambassador of Spain, Jose A. Zorrilla ( Spain’s Ambassador in Georgia in 2011).
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Putin have already stated in the past that the US have helped Chechen paramilitary/terrorists separatists forces
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As said by UK’s former Prime Minister Boris Johnson
NATO expanded:
And given that Trump wants to stop spending resources in this war or against Russia in general, that he may want to pivot to ASIA into competing with China, and that he may want to prevent WWW III or a Nuclear Apocalypse, it’s easier for him than to blame Russia or blame the US government and European governments which planned the Ukraine’s coup from the very beginning and pushed Ukraine into this path which would eventually lead it to war with Russia.
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This is not hard to see, as we know that large amounts of money was been poured into NGOs, Media Outlets, “Journalists”, influencers, etc… You name it, people who can tell a narrative, people who can influence the minds and hearts of others and help change people’s opinions, or move a certain group of people to act in a certain way.
Here we can see Zelensky with the President of the United States, Joe Biden and the General Secretary of NATO, Mark Rutte, among many other people.
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WE KNOW EVERYTHING ABSOLUTELY
The use of borders is a well known way to support paramilitary, illegal or terrorist forces within a country, from a one besides it.
It also means, having a lot of bases from which NATO countries could arm rebels, terrorits, paramilitary and separatists forces.
because, then, you know,
Not only the truth is more complicated and harder to believe by the average person, but also admitting that the United States is guilty in any way or form to this, is well, something which wouldn’t make him very popular as well with his supporters back in the US, and that would make the US and Europe look like the “bad guys”.
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Arming rebels, terrorists or paramilitary separatist or couping forces have happened in Syria, Libya, they also tried with Tibet against China many decades ago, etc…
So EU, NATO and previous US leaderships had to be very stupid to play a “game” that could lead to WWW III or eve a nuclear doomsday event.
Before, entering into Ukraine’s issue, I will give you a tinny example with Libya, so that you can understand what I mean.
Putin and the Russian government are not stupid, of course they know what type of things the US and it’s EU western allies could be planning to do in the long term.
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Boris Johnson:
there could be really a change in the society.
We know this isn’t going to be just some “free money”, obviously is going to be strings attached or given to bolster specific outlets that already have certain specific opinion, whether it be anti-russian, pro-USA, pro-EU, pro-NATO, anti-Yanukovych, pro-OUN-B, etc…
Kaja Kallas:
Gaddaffi wanted to create a PAN-AFFRICAN GOLD BACKED CURRENCY.
In the words the EX-Ambassador, Jose. A Zorrilla to his interviewer, Dr. Pascal Lottaz:
They used Ukraine as Wrecking Ball, thinking they could use it to weaken Russia, at least a little bit, and Ukrained was wrecked instead.